The Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit Mini. What is there left to say about this, probably the most famous of all u-locks? In its heyday, it was undoubtedly the most secure portable bike lock money could buy.
And for many people, it was the ultimate in bicycle security.
However, times change.
Portable angle grinders became more powerful. Thieves started using them to cut bike locks. And even a lock as strong as the Fahgettaboudit Mini could be defeated in around a minute by a thief with a fairly average portable angle grinder.
For a while, that wasn’t so bad. Because every other bike lock could be defeated in much less than a minute!
But with the recent arrival of several bike locks boasting technology that’s significantly more angle resistant than this, what’s the point of the Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit Mini these days?
Well, that’s what we’re here to find out…
The Fahgettaboudit Mini is outdated. There are more secure bike locks that are easier to carry and easier to use.
Summary
New York Fahgettaboudit Mini | |
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My score: |  |
Check price: | |
Shackle thickness: | 18 mm |
Weight: | 4.55 lb (2.06 kg) |
Size (internal): | 3.25 x 6" |
Kryptonite rating: | 10/10 |
Other Security Ratings: |  |
Fahgettaboudit Mini Pros
Fahgettaboudit Mini Cons
How secure is the Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit Mini?
With an 18″ shackle, the Fahgettaboudit is a rare beast. There are very few locks that can boast a shackle this thick.
Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit has a whopping18 mm thick shackle
What’s more, it’s made from Kryptonite's max-performance steel, which is triple heat treated for ultimate cutting force resistance.
No bolt cutters can crop this lock, manual or otherwise. In fact, here's a video of it destroying the blades of a hydraulic bolt cutter...
Leverage attacks, (that might defeat other u-locks) are also rendered useless by the double locking, over-sized, hardened steel crossbar.
A double locking shackle resists leverage attacks and needs to be cut twice
And because it's a mini u-lock, if you lock your bike correctly (more on this later), there’ll be no room inside the “D”, for a thief to insert a hydraulic bottle jack (that might be able to pop the lock open).
The extraordinary level of protection is reflected in its security ratings. Kryptonite themselves give it a maximum 10/10 rating. It's rated both Sold Secure Bicycle Gold and Motorcycle Gold. And ART give it 4/5.
The only way the Fahgettaboudit can be defeated is with an angle grinder. But the problem is:
- Thieves are increasingly using angle grinders
- A portable angle grinder can cut through both sides of the Fahgettaboudit Mini in around a minute
Now, we shouldn’t make the mistake of thinking that all thieves are walking around with portable grinders. They’re certainly not.
But when the Litelok X1, X3 and Hiplok D1000, offer far more angle grinder resistance. And there are loads of other bike locks that can also only be defeated by angle grinders, but are a bit easier to use and carry...
We come back to that first question: what is the point of the Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit Mini these days?
Let’s look at some of these usability issues that you’ll face with the Fahgettaboudit Mini…
Is the Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit Mini easy to carry?
Although it’s a mini u-lock, the Fahgettaboudit is still exceptionally heavy. With an official weight of 4.55 lb (2.06 kg) it’s actually one of the heaviest u-locks available.
It's a very heavy lock!
In fact, I could only find two u-locks that are heavier: the M18-WL mentioned above and the long shackle version of the OnGuard Brute!
In case you're struggling to imagine how heavy this is, it’s the same weight as 5.5 cans of coke. Which is pretty heavy!
The Fahgettaboudit Mini weighs the same as 5.5 cans of coke!
And it doesn’t come with a frame mount! So this makes carrying the Fahgettaboudit Mini a bit of a challenge.
Of course, you could put it in your backpack or shoulder bag if you use one. But that sort of weight in on your back every day might start to get annoying. You could also strap it to your luggage rack or put it in your panniers if you use them.
I have heard of people wedging them in their water bottle cages. And some people fasten the lock through a belt loop on their jeans (I do not recommend this technique, it seems like an accident waiting to happen, to me)
For many people these options weren’t acceptable and some have fashioned their own frame mounts, usually out of pieces of Velcro! If you google “how to carry a Fahgettaboudit” you will find loads of these homemade solutions.
Otherwise, you could buy a separate, third party frame mount. Kryptonite themselves make the Transit H-Bar lock carrier [Amazon] which is compatible with a wide range of bike locks including the Fahgettaboudit.
Kryptonite's own Transit H-Bar lock mount
Basically, it will fasten the lock to your handlebars by way of a plastic mount and some Velcro straps. However, be aware: it doesn’t get universally good reviews!
Two Fish also produce a handlebar mount [Amazon] that gets much better reviews. And note that although it’s specifically designed for handlebars, you can also use it to mount the lock anywhere else on your frame.
Two Fish handlebar mount
If you don’t want to mount the Fahgettaboudit on your bike, you could also look at third party holsters that will strap the lock to your body!
Fabric Horse do a very good value holster that attaches to your belt and fits a number of u-locks, including the Fahgettaboudit. I especially like this one as it’s made from recycled seat belts!
Fabric Horse u-lock holster
That’s not the Fahgettaboudit in the photo, by the way. It's the bigger, New York Standard. But this holster will also fit the Fahgettaboudit.
So, while the Fahgettaboudit doesn’t come with a frame mount, there are plenty of alternatives. But the reason I’m talking about this so much, is that it’s really important that you find a way to carry the Fahgettaboudit that works for you.
There’s no point owning a super secure u-lock if you can’t find a satisfactory way to carry it around every day. Because if carrying it is a pain, you’ll stop using it. And then your bike will be stolen.
It’s the same thing with making sure it’s easy to use…
Is the Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit Mini easy to use?
The Fahgettaboudit is a mini u-lock. In this case, the internal dimensions are just 6.0” x 3.25” (15.3 cm x 8.3 cm). That’s pretty small. Measure it out with a ruler or a tape measure. See what I mean?
These internal dimensions are important because they will determine where and how you lock your bike. Everything you want to secure, including whatever you’re locking your bike to, needs to fit in that space.
Now obviously whether this is possible or not will depend on what sort of bike you're riding and where you’re trying to lock it.
Locking my frame and back wheel with the Fahgettaboudit
The technique in the photo above locks the frame, the wheel and makes it difficult to attack the Fahgettaboudit with tools such as angle grinders or hydraulic jacks.
If you're riding a bike with a thin frame and thin wheels, you should have no problems locking the frame and the back wheel to a modern bike stand.
However, if you’ve got a fatter frame, fatter tires or the thing you're locking your bike to is slightly bigger than a modern Sheffield Cycle Stand, you will probably struggle to secure the frame and the wheel.
To be honest, if it’s a busy stand, you may even struggle with a thin bike!
You will struggle to lock the frame and a wheel on some bikes!
Now, this is not the end of the world. You can always use the Sheldon Brown bike locking method, where you secure just the back wheel to the bike rack, but through the rear triangle of the frame.
The idea here is that because the wheel cannot be pulled through the rear triangle, the whole bike is safe. I explain this locking method in more detail (with photographs!) on the how to lock your bike page. And while I don’t recommend it for long periods of time, it’s OK for short stops.
Using the Sheldon Brown method with the Fahgettaboudit Mini
A more long term solution would be to replace the quick release skewers on your wheels with secure locking skewers.
In fact, there’s a whole series of methods that you can employ to protect your wheels and reduce or even eliminate the need to lock them together with your frame. And I talk about them in great detail on the wheel locks and seat locks page!
Much more important, though, is that when you use a mini u-lock like the Fahgettaboudit, you do limit where you’re able to lock your bike. And if you live somewhere with few proper bike stands, your options may be very limited.
So think carefully about your neighborhood, your bike and where exactly you routinely lock it. Will you easily be able to find places to secure it with a Fahgettaboudit? If the answer is no, then the Fahgettaboudit is probably not for you.
The keyhole features...
...a sliding plastic cover!
Another thing we should talk about is lock maintenance. Modern locks shouldn’t need too much looking after. But if they are left outside for long periods, especially in harsh weather conditions, you should be nice to them at least occasionally.
There are quite a few of reports of the Fahgettaboudit seizing up or jamming. I don’t think the Fahgettaboudit is more prone to this problem than any other high quality lock. I just think, it’s such a heavy beast, that when it does start to stiffen, it’s that much harder to fix.
Try to avoid the problem even starting by cleaning and lubricating your lock regularly. I go into this in more detail on my how to fix a jammed bike lock (and how to stop it happening again) page.
But to summarize here: clean the mechanism with WD-40. Lubricate the mechanism with a Teflon based product such Finish Line or TriFlow. And add a smear of White Lithium Grease to the ends of the shackles and the crossbar holes.
This will significantly reduce the chances of your Fahgettaboudit ever jamming.
Does the Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit Mini include insurance?
The Fahgettaboudit is eligible for Kryptonite's in-house Anti-Theft Protection. Under this scheme, if your bike is stolen as a result of this lock being defeated, Kryptonite will pay you up to $5,000 / £3,500 / €4,500 depending on the value of your bike.
I go into the ins and outs of this scheme in much more detail on the Abus vs Kryptonite vs OnGuard page.
But to summarize here: you need to register as soon as you buy the lock, it’s not free and even though the Kryptonite scheme is far better than the equivalent OnGuard scheme, the chances of them paying out aren't great.
It’s much, much better to organize your own insurance separately.
Conclusion: Is the Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit Mini worth it?
The Fahgettaboudit was always a lock you had to make compromises for. Because it’s really heavy and doesn’t come with a frame mount, it can be difficult to carry around. Because it’s really small, it can be difficult to secure your bike how you’d like.
But for those who needed the very highest level of bike security, these compromises were worth it, because they were getting the strongest portable bike lock in the world.
Now that’s no longer the case (there are stronger portable bike locks available), why would you make those compromises?
The answer is: you wouldn’t.
I never made the Fahgettaboudit one of my best bike lock choices, because I always thought the compromises were unnecessary for most people. But I recognized that for those that needed the most secure bike lock, it made a lot of sense.
But to be honest, it’s a hard to recommend the Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit Mini for anyone in 2023.
Litelok X1 vs Litelok X3 vs Hiplok D1000
The Litelok X1 and X3, and the Hiplok D1000, are all stronger (at least against the methods of attack that thieves are using in the street). And this is reflected in their Sold Secure ratings; they are the only u-locks with Motorcycle Diamond ratings.
And with these locks you don’t have to make the compromises that you do with the Fahgettaboudit Mini.
The Litelok X1 is bigger, lighter and comes with a decent frame mount. The X3 is bigger, just slightly (50g) heavier, but 15x more angle grinder resistant. The Hiplok D1000, is about the same size, but lighter (120g) and also 15x more angle grinder resistant.
Abus 540 vs Litelok X1 vs Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit Mini
The only place the Fahgettaboudit beats these locks is in terms of price. But while the Litelok X3 and Hiplok D1000 are both incredibly expensive, the Litelok X1 costs only slightly more than the Fahgettaboudit Mini [Amazon].
I fully expect the big brands to launch their own angle grinder resistant bike locks in the coming months. And maybe the Fahgettaboudit will be relaunched with angle grinder resistant technology. It would certainly be a shame to lose such a strong brand.
But until then, there are much better high security bike locks available.
Alternatives to the Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit Mini
There are plenty of alternatives to the Fahgettaboudit (but nothing as secure)
Whether you’re looking for something lighter, cheaper or more secure, there are plenty of alternatives to the Fahgettaboudit.
Looking for something lighter?
The Abus Granit X-Plus Mini 54 [Amazon] is around the same price as the Fahgettaboudit and is more or less the same size, just slightly shorter and wider.
However it’s almost half the weight of the Kryptonite monster! This is because the shackle is just 13 mm thick.
Despite this, Abus give it their maximum 15/15 security rating and it’s also rated Sold Secure Gold.
In fact it’s probably the lightest, high security u-lock available today.
It’s clearly not as secure as the Fahgettaboudit, but you probably don’t need it to be. The only way either lock is likely to be defeated is with an angle grinder, and a few seconds either way isn’t going to make much difference.
So if you’re looking for a small, light u-lock that still offers a very high level of protection, this could be the lock or you.
Looking for something more secure?
Unfortunately, even the mighty Fahgettaboudit will only last seconds against an angle grinder attack.
But fear not, as there is a new generation of angle grinder resistant bike locks in town!
Bike locks like the Hiplok D1000 and the Litelok X3 are so resistant to angle grinder discs that they are almost angle grinder proof.
However, they’re very heavy and very, very expensive.
The Litelok X1 is the baby brother of the Litelok X3 and while it’s not quite as tough, a thief would still need to change several discs before they could defeat it.
In most street scenarios, this will be enough. And the Litelok X1 has the advantage of being much lighter and practically sized than both those two locks and the Fahgettaboudit.
Most significantly: while it’s unusually more expensive than the Fahgettaboudit, it’s much, much cheaper than the Hiplok D1000 or the Litelok X3. Check out my full Litelok X1 review for more!
Looking for something cheaper?
The OnGuard Brute Mini [Amazon] is about the same size as the Fahgettaboudit, being slightly wider but also slightly shorter.
The shackle is 16.8 mm thick, so it’s definitely bolt cutter proof. And it features OnGuard’s quadruple deadbolt locking system which means the shackle would need to be cut twice to defeat it.
OnGuard give it a 97/100 security rating and while it’s not rated by Sold Secure, there is no reason to think it wouldn’t be awarded the same Gold rating as it’s standard sized brother.
The best thing about this lock though, is the price. It usually costs less than half as much as the Fahgettaboudit! In fact it’s usually less than half the price of all the other locks on this page. A bargain!
Just remember to clean and lubricate it regularly, because OnGuard locks are often not as well weatherproofed as some of the other brands. But if you’re looking for a high security mini u-lock at a rock bottom price, this is the lock for you!
If these locks aren’t quite right either, don’t forget my straightforward guide to choosing the best bike lock!
Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit Mini Specs
New York Fahgettaboudit Mini | |
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My score: | |
Check price: | |
Shackle thickness: | 18 mm |
Weight: | 4.55 lb (2.06 kg) |
Size (internal): | 3.25 x 6" |
Kryptonite rating: | 10/10 |
Other Security Ratings: | |
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Hi Carl, What an excellent site! Thank you!
I’m not a spring chicken (61) and am an avid cyclist. I have a pretty expensive road bike and am going to spend a month at the beach taking care of my mother. I’d like to get the New York Fahgettaboudit Mini but worry about the weight. I am used to riding light and as an older woman, I don’t want to risk too much weight on my back. Sounds like the mounting brackets don’t work well, too. What do you think is the next best alternative? A few years ago, my bike was in back of my van in my driveway (mistake) and the thieves smashed through the glass and took the bike; so I’m pretty paranoid. Thanks again!
Hi Mary,
The Fahgettaboudit Mini is a really heavy lock! If you’re happy with a mini sized u-lock then I highly recommend the Abus Granit X-Plus 54 Mini which is almost half as heavy as the Fahgettaboudit.
It’s not quite as secure as the Fahgettaboudit, (no other portable bike lock is). It is very secure though. I talk about it in more detail here.
As with all mini u-locks, think carefully about whether it’s big enough to use in the streets where you ride. If it’s not you could try the big brother of the 54 Mini. This is the X-Plus 540, which is also very secure, is lighter than the Fahgettaboudit (despite being much bigger) and comes with a good frame mount.
I hope that helps!
Carl
I’ll be receiving my Flux Trail e-bike in a month or two, so spending a bit on the lock will be worth it even in a low- to moderate-risk are in the suburbs outside Boulder (of course if I ride TO Boulder it’s bike thief paradise). Plus the fact I have motor assist means a heavy lock isn’t something I’ll be able to complain about 🙂
So I’ll be utilizing the Sheldon method with this U-bar, but what about the cable to secure the front wheel – is there anything that makes one better than another? Awesome site by the way.
Hi Chris,
Nice bike! To be honest, all cable locks are pretty hopeless. The armored ones are better. But they’re heavy and expensive.
If you’re going to use a cable to secure the front wheel of a nice bike like this, then the first thing you should do is get rid of the quick release skewers.
Just replacing them with hex head skewers will vastly improve the chances of keeping your wheel. If you use a one of the more secure options, even better.
With something like that and a cable noose, in a low risk area you will probably be OK.
If you want to be even more secure then a mini u-lock like the Kryptonite Messenger Mini is a good, lightweight choice. Although in this case it will be too small to secure the wheel to the frame; you’ll need to secure the wheel to a rack or rails.
Or since weight is not such an issue a 6 mm chain like the Kryptonite Keeper will be a much better choice than most cables.
But as I say, if you get rid of the quick release wheels a cable noose should be OK in your case.
Hope that helps!
So, how do you feel about paring the Fahgettaboutdit with a Kryptonite cable (like this for example https://www.amazon.ca/KRYPTONITE-KryptoFlex-7-ft-Cable/dp/B01EX9RHE0/ ) for the front wheel, the seat, etc?
Just got a new whip and am doing actual research into actual bike locks and this web site is a FANTASTIC resource! Thanks! Tell the bartender your next is a double, and it’s on my tab!
Cheers
Thanks Clinton!
These cables provide no real protection against thieves. They stop honest people becoming thieves! And maybe give you some piece of mind.
The most effective thing you can do to protect your wheels and seat is to replace the quick release skewers. The cable will then give an addition (thin) layer of security.
But if you’re cycling somewhere that’s risky enough to require a Fahgettaboudit, (and you’ve got nice wheels and seat) then a cable like this is not enough by itself.
Have a look at the seat and wheels page for some ideas. It doesn’t have to be expensive. I just use the old bike chain method on my seat and have regular nutted bolts on my wheels.
I’ve found that the thieves where I live are prepared to go through cables (and bike chains) to get to quick release seats but will generally leave seats without quick release clamps alone (as long as they are secured with something else).
I hope that helps!
(Mines a G&T)
A friend just got her bike stolen in daylight, in a very busy street, with the bike frame secured to a immovable object.
With that kind of heavy lock, picking its lock is the path of least resistance for a professional and only takes a few minutes.
Hi Vincent,
Are you saying your friends bike was stolen while secured with this lock? If so, how do you know they picked the lock?
Thanks
Carl
Hello Carl
Thank you for this amazing website!but I still have some doubts I wish you could help me.
The New York Fahgettaboudit Mini is the most secure U Lock, but it is not big enough to lock the frame and the wheel to a rack right?? Even the ABUS Granit 540 X Plus with 10,8 cm does not seem to feet around frame and wheel and a bike rack, and my bike and tires are quite thin. Maybe I am not understanding the proper way to use them.
I have gotten my bike stolen from work, so I am a bit paranoid and i really want to invest in a good ( or two) good locks, but i am a bit lost because of this, they don’t seem to feet so i could lock the bike the right way as you showed us. I spend at work from 6 to 24 hours sometime, should I get a chain left there and a U lock- and which U lock ABUS granit 540 ABUS MINI or the Nyc Fahggettaboutit! Help!!
Thank you so much
Hi Maria,
The Fahgettaboudit may be big enough to lock the frame and the wheel to a rack. It depends on what type of bike you’ve got…
https://goo.gl/images/dKIqZI
https://goo.gl/images/hL7NcC
In the photos above, they manage it. But the bikes have thin wheels and frames. With a bigger bike you will probably struggle.
But with the Abus Granit 540 X Plus you shouldn’t have any problems.
Have you read the how to lock your bike page? The photos on that page show me locking the frame and a wheel with a lock that’s more or less the same size as the Abus Granit 540 X Plus.
It should be easy.
As to which is lock is best for you, it’s hard to say without knowing a little more about where you work and where you keep your bike at home.
But in general I’d say the Abus Granit 540 X Plus is more practical than the Fahggettaboutit. It’s bigger, lighter, comes with a frame mount and is only a little bit less secure.
If you were to use the Abus Granit 540 X Plus for portable security and keep a good thick chain at work (where you could use both locks) that would be a very secure combination.
When you’re at work are you leaving the bike on the street or is there a private place inside work you can lock it?
Thanks
Carl
Hi, I’m reading up on bike security after having it finally happen to me after almost 4 years in the city. Thanks for helping me form a no-compromise, no-bullshit security posture: force the attacker to wield multiple loud, sparking appliances for at least 15 minutes on the busiest street in broad daylight.
Please consider correcting your otherwise excellent advice to say: use graphite powder and not WD-40 on the lock’s moving parts, then work the mechanism a few times. Graphite leaves no oily residue and is recommended by all locksmiths. The locks really are more expensive than the bike.
Thanks again for writing such a useful site.
Hi P
Have you checked my more detailed post on lubricants? Graphite is good for dry environments. But outside where the lock is often exposed to water, the graphite can get wet and turn into a sticky mess that collects dirt and jams the mechanism.
Hi Carl:
Thank you for this site! I just bought a VERY expensive e-bike, and am worried it will be a magnet for bike thieves. It will be stored in a locked room, but if I’m out and about and want to stop and pick up something, I want to be able to lock it up for 20 minutes and not stress. Weight is not so much of an issue, but the frame is very thick. I need a system for locking that will be x-tra secure that will fit around the frame. I was thinking of the Fahgettaboudit Mini and a chain, but which chain. Do you have another suggestion? Thank you!! (PS Locking skewers for the wheels are coming, but not available yet for my model.)
Hi Karen,
If the frame is very thick, a Fahgettaboudit Mini is probably not the best option. Or are you thinking of using the Fahgettaboudit to hold both ends of the chain together?
Thanks
Carl
Interesting video on how to pick this lock. At the end he does mention that it is not practical for a thief to do such lock-picking on the street, and that a thief would more readily go at it with a grinder, which would take 5 minutes and draw a whole lot of attention ~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iaj6Hh2kr9E
Hi Carl,
I have just recently purcahsed a Haibike Sduro Treeking 7.0 ebike, It was quite expensve and Im at a loss as to what lock I sould get. I was looking at the Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit Mini with possibly a chain or cable. But Im not sure if it would fit my bike and its difficult to judge when you dont have it physically avaialable to try out.
I do a lot of cycling for recreational purposes and just to go to the shops and back. I never leave out over night.
Is there a lock you would reccomend would be best for me and my type of bike?
Thank you in advance
Hi Joe,
Nice bike!
I doubt very much that you’ll be able to get the Fahgettaboudit Mini around your frame and a wheel.
But you may struggle with bigger u-locks too, as it looks like your bike has quite fat tires!
Will you always lock your bike to bike racks?
My advice would be this:
1. Get separate security nuts for your wheels and seat. My favorite is Hexlox. But there are plenty of others too.
2. Get a different lock just for your frame. If you only use bike racks the Fahgettaboudit Mini will be fine. If you sometimes lock your bike elsewhere you’ll need a wider u-lock or a chain.
This system will allow you to keep whatever lock you choose far from the ground. You won’t have to worry too much about the size if you’re only securing the frame. And you won’t end up carrying a massive amount of weight.
You’ll need a Sold Secure Gold lock. So take a look at the different dimensions and weights here.
I hope that helps!
Carl
Hi Carl,
Thank you so much for your invaluable advice 🙂
Most of the time I would say I would be using the cycle parking racks /posts supplied outside shops and cafes!
I think the Hex lock suggestion is great so Im going to go ahead with that.
It is true my bike has 2.4 inc tires so they are quite thick.
I have quick release wheels and saddle adjuster lever secure with allan nuts The rest of the bike uses an allan key!
In your expert opinion how many Hex Locks would I need to fully secure my bike parts and what chain lock would you reccomend to scure the bike to the cycle racks/posts
Thank you again
Well you just need one Hexlox per allen nut. I don’t quite understand the description of your setup. But I’d imagine you’ll need one per wheel and then one for the seat post adjuster. And possibly one for where the seat attaches to the seat post?
So 4?
But there are various sizes. And maybe you’ll need to replace your skewers too.
If you’re unsure, your best bet is to contact he Hexlox people directly, as they’re super helpful.
And let us know how you get on!
Cheers
Carl
Thanks Carl,
Could you just dowble check for me if I have missed anthing !!
I think I may need the following Hexlox for my bike!
Handlebar Stem – 1 x 5mm
Saddle – 2 x 5mm
Saddle Post – Bolt Set + 1 x 4mm
Front Wheel – Thru Axle, Suntour-Q-Lock + 1 x 6mm
Rear Wheel – Rear 12′ Thru Axle + 1 x 6mm
Gear Shift Trigger System – 1 x 4mm
Then add a U Lock for just the frame, Other than the Kryptonite forgetaboutit model Is there another one you would recommend? to save some costs!
Thak you again
Wow that’s a lot of Hexlox Joe!
Did you get a quote for how much that would cost in total?
If you want to save money on the lock then the OnGuard Brute Mini would be a good choice.
It’s not quite as secure as the Fahgettaboudit Mini, but it’s still extremely secure.
And it’s around half the price!
Just remember to keep the inside of the u-lock as full of as possible to stop anything being used to pry it open.
Also, OnGuard locks tend to need a little bit more care than other brands.
So make sure you clean and lubricate both the mechanism and the shackle now and again. More details here.
Indeed !! Quite a few needed ! It will cost around £200 for the whole lot! Whats more confusing is my discussions with Hexlox via email regarding the saddle screws if they are magnitised or not 🙂 I have no idea, Put a magent to the screw and I get a small amount of force but not sure what they class as magnitised!
Thank you for the suggestion I will take a look at the On Guard range. I was looking at the BORDO GRANIT XPLUS™ 6500/85 but not sure about the rings.
I also found out today that Haibike make thier own security system called Haibike MRS (Modular Rail System) + Cable 100cm However it needs to be fitted prior to delivery of the bike. Problem is the dealers who seel the bike are not intetested in promoting it so after you take delivery you cant get it unless you buy direct from Haibike! But Haibike are not quick in responding.
Never thought that it would be so complicated and worrying to get a lock. But when you spend £1000’s on a bike you have to protect it! You just dont think about it before yo bike the bike lol.
Thanks
Joe
Mmmm I don’t think the Bordo is secure enough for your set up.
And I would be very wary about any Haibike security system. It looks like nothing more than an integrated cable!
If it turns out your saddle screws are not magnetized enough, I think Hexlox sell magnetized inserts too.
Yeah, I agree !!
Been researching everything today and the more you look at it the more obssessed you get !!
I think after your kind advice and research done I think I will go with the Kyptonite forgetaboutit Lock and the Hexlox. That shoud give me optimal protection.
What do yo think Carl?
The only wierd bit is not having a cable attached to it! I know you may not need it if you have Hexlox and the Kryptonite lock Buts it the pyscological aspect of it :))
Yep I think that’s the safest choice! I wouldn’t worry about the cable, as you say they only offer psychological protection.
Hi Carl,
Good evening,
Just wanted to let you know I have now fitted my ABUS Granit X-Plus 54 Mini Cycling D-Lock and Abus AB9085 xSidemount Bracket for X-Plus 54, Black to my bike 🙂
I’m just waiting on my Hexlox and I should be all good thanks to you and your invaluable advice 🙂 Thank you!
Took some pic’s to show you it all fitted but not sure how to add thewm on here!!!
Thanks again
Joe
“With an 18″ shackle, the Fahgettaboudit is a rare beast.”
WOW! That is a really big shackle for a ‘Mini’ lock. 🙂
Thieves sliced right thru my Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit Mini and my Abus Granit X-Plus 540 long shackle U in seconds, the thing that saved my Specialized Turbo Vado SL 5.0 e-bike was they were spooked by concerned onlookers, they panicked and punctured the front wheel trying to make a second cut to the Kryptonite U section. They beat a hasty retreat, I returned to the bike stand a few minutes later to find my bike surrounded by onlookers.
I’m now waiting on a pair of Litelok X1s to be delivered, depending on my finances I’ll probably end up buying a Litelok X3 as well.
My bike was just stolen and I had this lock.